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Jonjo619 · 67 points · 11 years ago

Well, its not like heÂ´s gonna run away or something

[deleted] · 41 points · 11 years ago

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zib3 · 38 points · 11 years ago

repeated food theft. i shit you not.

HugelolPolice · 35 points · 11 years ago

omfg you're right. :"George Jolicoeur, 38, is infamous for ordering food and then complaining about the quality and refusing to pay after he eats it"

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zaelon · 6 points · 11 years ago

it means cute heart litteraly but "faire le joli coeur" really means "to have a flirtatious behaviour". I think it suits him even better :p

ArchangelHex · 13 points · 11 years ago

Why the hell would they let him out if he's too fat? Health reasons?

jimbrowsky · 8 points · 11 years ago

So there's nobody in prison? haha

DagwoodBumstead · 8 points · 11 years ago

Where else? Northern Ireland: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/outrage-as-paedophile-is-spared-jail-for-being-too-fat-1834096.html

And this guy in Australia got a shorter sentence: http://www.qt.com.au/news/conman-too-fat-for-jail-conman-to-serve-only-six-m/1494861/

But hur, hur, hur, 'Murica, right?

Frichast · 1 points · 11 years ago

Shut up. Don't ruin a good joke. You suck and you know it, America.

aapman · 3-Year Club · 4 points · 11 years ago

I really can not imagine what crime he CAN commit. he is too slow for every crime. Unless blocking the entrance to Mc Donalds is a crime.

Ziemniak · 1 points · 11 years ago

You Joli?

Aces1995 · 0 points · 11 years ago

ehhh I'd say Florida is more Cuba than America nowadays

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dunt231 · -10 points · 11 years ago

In the netherlands and in Germany you go to jail for 15 years if you kill somebody so that you can kill again and again. just saying. Europe has alot wierder policies and to think we used to cut the Hands off of thieves... so sad that we our hearts have turned to jelly.

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dunt231 · -3 points · 11 years ago

Well let me tell you in europe we have a homocide rate of 3.5% and in the USA you have a rate of 4.7% (1.2% difference) according to you even 2.1% isnt significant. Now before you come here with Germany has alot less dont Forget that in Germany you will be kept alive no matter what so there is no reason to commit a crime in the US this is difference, but we are not talking about social policies to prevent crime, but what to do with those who have allready commited murder. So lets see in Germany the fallback rate is 2.1% (or was this the number that qualifies)doesnt matter lets say N People fallback in Germany because they are let free, well in the US 0 People fallback because they are killed or kept in jail forever. So how is resocializing the better solution does it matter to you wether they live or not? Resocializing doesnt prevent the murder. And why the hell should I be grateful I have no intent of murder or any crime. As a physicist I do not believe in shrinks the human mind is way to complex for us to make a real Analysis of it yet.

Now that you have got me started let me tell you why I think that our whole System is flawed (yes I am european):

I dont think I Need to explain that europe has been going down hill since the beginning of the 20th century. I just want to say that on our road to victory we followed much harsher policies and since the downfall we have been becoming ever more soft or as you probablly call it civilized (*supressed laughter*) all we do with our "social" policies is feed the greed in the human.

Oh and China (yeah those guys headed up hill) they have those harsh policies.

You are probably thinking well europe may be going down hill but america is too even though they have harsh policies, this is because of the idiotic idea that economies are forever growing as in you can borrow Money because next year you will be able to pay back Need I remind you that the earth has a certain amount of resources and therefore is worth a certain amount of Money, it cannot become worth more!

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hafaelhenzo · 8-Year Club · 1 points · 11 years ago

Have you ever heard that some gang member sit in jail and they give the orders from inside the prison to kill other people / (ex)gang members?
it's not like "they are in jail and you are save".

dunt231 · 1 points · 11 years ago

Your Point is? Let me tell you what my Point is: clean up the shit. If you destroy enough of it you will be alot safer. Its not like that if you have cancer you are going to make the cancer go away for a Little bit, no you want it destroyed. so why not destroy the cancer in Society. We dont Need them do we. oh and yes I have heard the socialist Argument: "if you kill them you cant use them in Society anymore" its not like they were usefull before hand.

hafaelhenzo · 8-Year Club · 1 points · 11 years ago

That it's not good to have a psycho locked up.
So according to you, you should use the death penalty more often? I see the biggest problem in there with the people who are innocent in the death cell (there are also other issues). With therapy and resocialization you don't make any harm.

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CookieMonsta · 6-Year Club · -2 points · 11 years ago

well.., longer in jail also means that you'd have to pay for the dude longer.., besides that, the average recidivism of prison inmates after release tends to be higher in the USA than in for example Netherlands.

Could also ask yourself this, do we put them in jail for repentence and making sure they dont do it again, or do we do it for revenge?

dunt231 · 0 points · 11 years ago

I doubt american murderers murder again after they are caught (its quite difficult is you are in a grave).
The Family of the murdered wants the murderer killed out of revenge. We want him killed because we are afraid that he might kill one of us.

CookieMonsta · 6-Year Club · 1 points · 11 years ago

who says i'm talking about murder, i'm just talking about criminality in general, but fact is that when prisoners in america leave prison, they usually have a higher rate of return, while they've served more time in prison as well. If you go to prison when you're lets say 25, get a 10 - 20 year sentence, you'll leave when you're 35 - 45, with no money, almost no job experience (+they're old), and bad credentials.. (who hires a convict?).
What you get then is that alot of ex-prisoners dont see a way to make a living and start going back in criminality. And criminality aint as much of a fun job as some movies make it seem.
Where as, let just say a 5 year sentence in NL will give a better chance for getting back in society.

dunt231 · 0 points · 11 years ago

In the US if you get out of prison you are indeed more likely to fallback because as you said nobody will hire you and the gov isnt going to give you Money either. Being old in the US has a smaller effect on your Job oppurtunity than in NL, because in the US your employer does not have to pay more if you are older in NL this is the case.

Why do you have better chances to be hired in NL as ex-criminal, if you (as an employer) have a choice between a ex-criminal and somebody with a clean record and the ex-criminal isnt much better at the Job you would choose for the guy with the clean record, just like an american would.

In lots of prisons in both america and NL it is possible for inmates to do some Kind of a Job, so they do have experience when they leave jail.

I personaly think that there would be less fallback if dutch prisons would follow their old policies (resocializing) but longer sentences ofcourse this would be more expensive.
We could also just follow the simple way, the one that nature follows namely destroy that what is bad for the commune.

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