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I saved some questionable porn and some Hitler rave stuff, but not the gore :/

AdvocateDiaboli · Hardcore Commenter · 1 points ·
1. That is actually pretty well known here. On the one hand small scale violent crime is prevalent in refugees since they often live in small rooms with several roomies. I've personally seen rooms that were about a small as a normal kitchen with two beds in them. Two cupboards, two beds a bit of floor and that's it. often enough it's even more in one room - it would be amazing if they staid quiet in those rooms.
On the other hand our right wingparty asked for the first names of knife attackers (to prove it's immigrants with a german passport) and they were called Markus, Andreas etc..
So yes and no. Overall our society has been a lot less violent in the last few decades, to the point that we have to psychologically teach police students how to be violent for the first time in history.

2. Yeah, immigrants do a much higher portion of crime compared to non.immigrants.
Problematically they have a big overlap with the most criminal group of mankind: Young men.

3. As far as I am aware people are a lot more sensitive especially with regards to sexual and violent crime, so a drop in reports is not to be expected. Maybe with the excpetion of Berlin, where most people go off with a warning for the first few crimes, so many feel like it doesn't matter if they report something.

I think there are multiple reasons why Germany is better off.
On the one hand the amount of immigrants in Sweden (or Belgium for that matter) is crazy high. I think Sweden has something close to 30%? Germany is somewhere below 10%.
On the other hand due to our history we tried to be REALLY tolerant for a long time. That had some bad aspects (e.g. not enough attepmts at actual immigration) but the sons and daughters of our immigrants had it quite easy to be integrated.
At some point it was pretty close to positive racism, e.g. in the early 2010s refugees were romanticized a bit.
So yeah, compared to France refugees had it easy to start a business or find a job here.

Not ot forget that Germans always were a bit cooler compared to others. When France had a revolution, Germany had an administrative reform with a similar result.

Also in case you wonder why it takes so long for me to answer to you - it's because I actually have to think about your point and can't just link to some wikipedia pages about fallacies.
And if you are wondering about the context - it's the last post on the page.^^

"Regarding the reason why the right wingers spreads "propaganda", I don't believe the reason is insecurity in the common sense of the word, but a deep feeling of being "attacked" and threatened; some deep, primordial "reflex" to respond with rage when receiving stimuli that is interpreted as one's own group is in danger (especially by a foreign group). As you imply, the "feeling" is less important that reality, but it matters little when it comes to politics."
--> makes a lot of sense to me. What wonders me though, is how often they think they are factually right when it's so often based on feelings that have no actual basis on any statistic etc.

AdvocateDiaboli · Hardcore Commenter · 2 points ·
Kinda annoys me that we are at the point where I explain you how to scroll down a mf web page.
I mean, is it so hard?

AdvocateDiaboli · Hardcore Commenter · 1 points ·
So just take the numbers from 2015 onwards... still the same result.

AdvocateDiaboli · Hardcore Commenter · 1 points · *
Somehow nobody in Berlin is able to drive anything appropriately and pretty much everyone with more than one wheel or two legs is a Hurensohn here.

AdvocateDiaboli · Hardcore Commenter · 4 points ·
"It's just so arrogant to think you could import such numbers from a place France annexed and treated like sh*t but somehow expect them to integrate... Even when so many people said it was a bad idea, from all sides and colors."

You should put more emphasis on this point. It's not like french people stopped treating them like shit after Algeria became independend and after they had so many immigrants.

There are algerian-french people in those suburbs who have good degrees in STEM but somehow still don't get a job in France - no wonder they are rebelling. I would rebel, too.

"To THINK more mass immigration, from places that aren't exactly keen about the west, would somehow SOLVE this, is just ridiculous."
I don't think anyone really thinks that. It's also not the pint about any debate currently going on when it comes to immigration.


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After getting a headache trying to understand the mental gymnastics some of the users make, I decided to put my effort into sth more challenging. Cya
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