Cool

This is pretty sad.. At least he got a fistbump

Go ahead dude, eat pidgeons

Really bad meme.. Just not funny :/

Ai is not mere months old..... It has been developing for over a decade now probably, openai and chatgpt have been available for over a year easily already

This is not pov

88.... Very edgy man

What does it mean?? The only ones who talk about moloch are conspiracy nuts, but I feel this meme is making fun of people who don't believe in moloch or something? What's happening here?

im going to be brief, I dont want to come accross as very passive aggressive

' But my point isn't incorrect as far as I am aware of. MERS isn't a SARS type. '

Wrong, MERS and SARS are both family members, as they are both Coronaviruses that cause respiratory syndromes. They just have different names (see my point about CMV, just because it is named differently, doenst mean its not a herpes virus)

'I am aware. There are probably trillions of corona virusses out there.'
Not true, there are few coronaviruses (in the way that we at least have named them), and fewer that can infect humans

And I do agree that there are corona virusses with furin cleavage sites.

But just because a virus is a corona virus, doesn't mean it has a furin cleavage site.
True

I find it super weird how suddenly a SARS type, out of all the types out there, somehow got a code that translates into a furin cleavage site.

'I also agree that MERS is similar to SARS but I haven't read any papers indicating that MERS is a SARS type. It is a MERS type for all I am aware of.'
See comment above, wikipedia even says it.. Dont know what papers you are reading

A SARS outbreak with a furin cleavage site is rare and super sus specifically during the period a lab is active that researched SARS types in order to prevent pandemics. Or so they claim.

The furin cleavage site makes a virus VERY good at spreading through a human body since it now can use the human enzym furin.
A furin site doesnt equate to increase in spread. It is quite weird that this is the case, which is why this finding resulted in a Nature paper

The ability to use furin makes it a virus that can easily cause a pandemic.
Not true, the fact that it spreads easily was the reason it caused a pandemic.
If your reasoning was sound, why did the MERS-CoV not cause a pandemic? It has a furin site?

*Skip to the end, where I try to explain why it is almost expected to find an anomalous coronavirus in the pandemic,

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And somehow, out of ALL cities in China... Out of ALL places in the entire world... They have traced the pandemic back to Wuhan. The very place where the lab is conducting research on SARS type virusses in order to prevent pandemics.

Heck, the lab itself is located within the radius of but a some miles of the first place of spreading.

Imagine a group of people, group A, carrying bags of bananas.
Sure, group A has bananas.

Imagine another group, group B, carrying bags of apples.
Group B has apples.

We also know that group B does NOT have bananas.

Group A and Group B are both groups of people.

And suddenly, somehow, there is now suddenly a person in Group B carrying a bag with apples AND bananas.

With said person standing right next to a machine that can shoot bananas in plastic bags.

We can say the bananas were shot inside the bag by the machine... Or that they fell from the sky into the bag by pure coincidence as "nature" intended. (Sorry for the weird example but work with me here lol)

The bananas being the code resulting in furin cleavage sites.

Group A being a group of unspecified non-SARS corona virusses with furin cleavage site codes.

Group B, being the SARS type virusses.

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This is a bit too conspiracy-y for me to say anything about..

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China refusing to collaborate and holding back information on purpose, is the EXACT reason why people urge them to be transparant. But they don't want to be transparant.
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***ing weird, i agree

The political aspect and the fear of consequences of finding out the potential truth, lab-leak or not, has taken over the chase for the truth itself. And that in itself is a most dangerous thing!

The radical and super authoritarian Chinese Communist Party could easily proof their innocence by showing the lab data of the Wuhan research center but they literally refuse to show it.

Ideology is taking over science in the name of protecting the party.

I would want people to question the situation. I want them to brainstorm. I want them to be able to think and try find anwsers. Not blindly accept what the CCP claims without them showing evidence.

All the better that they can proof it isn't a lab-leak. But they have still to do so and as long as they withold the data proving that, I do not want to rule it out.

So the batsoup hypothesis is as valid as the lab-outbreak hypothesis.

not true, since there is plenty of evidence surrounding natural reservoirs, which have been described for many viruses, and many coronaviruses before sars-cov2

What excuse does China give that they cannot show the data of the lab?
The internalional community is walking on eggs here.

weird i agree

And one of the first hypotheses of the actual experts was indeed the possibility of a lab-leak since they were shocked to find the furin cleavage site on SARS-CoV-2... Which either is a massive amount of bad luck or a clear indicator of human meddling. Especially considering the exact location of the outbreak start.

There is actually a pretty reasonable explanation why only now there is a anomalous coronavirus outbreak: many of the other viruses actually arent that infectious (dont infect humans) or arent transferred easily. That means that there is a small chance for gettin infected with this rare, hidden (in animal reservoirs) coronavirus, and the few that can actually infect humans, will spread easily. It was a perfect storm of a virus, which would spread very easily wtihout many symptoms, but still be too lethal to let go unchecked.

As people had predicted quite early on, the longer this virus is in the circulation, the less harmful it will become, since killing/severely harming humans reduces spread, while giving only mild symptoms increases spread (people will go out). See why there is a lot of herpes infection, and few ebola