Implying that gorgons are worse

Shamefur dispray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc relevant.

this discussion would certainly fall flat if i would bring up nihilism and how i don't see either system as truly superior to the other, the only thing i ever wanted to argue was that a welfare state that already exists in many places has yielded and still yields better outcomes to the majority of people (happiness, living conditions, opportunities etc.) compared to any socialist system that has ever existed. But in the spirit of Christmas, I think we are done here.

I quess we just have to keep doing this until i learn not to get baited by your luncay lel.

While indeed the use of the word jargon was not probably the call, what i was going for is that the unload paragraphs taken almost directly from some person's work in order to seem credible since you can say that this other famous person said this is just not something i really want to interact with. Also i don't really get how you can say that not only is capitalism similar to fascism (at least in what the role of the government or personal freedoms are) but also that there is only this one thing called capitalism implying that all free market systems are the same since i would really argue that say the American system is really different from the system of some Nordic welfare state. But all that doesn't really matter since as i previously have many times stated, this is not a discussion that is ever going to result in anything else than me being annoyed at your tone and time being wasted.

Or if you want a more academic response, something something theory of justice by John Rawls something something.

You can think of it as scholasticism, you may have all that sweet sweet jargon and other things with which you try to explain how a system that produces the best living conditions for the most amount of people is bad because it doesn't make a developing country an industrial country the moment it comes into contact with it and because it doesn't always in every country fully support a neet family with 5 kids. Those things somehow make the fact that it produces the most successful outcome measured by almost any metric (happiness, health, average household outcome) somehow completely worthless. And by the way i believe you should work on that reading comprehension as well since i definitely said that YOUR arguments were more academic, not his. And why i'm saying that classical debate is not something i find worth anyone's time is because no matter what i say to you, you will always find a way to go around what i said and just spew out a whole lot of jargon written by some social theorist. And the reason why i despise that especially is that arrogant "I know better you, bourgeoisie pig" tone that you write these texts with, like would you find some introductory book into fascism as worthwhile reading if some hiddenloller would refer it to you?

An ideology is an ideology no matter if it has multiple contributors or not. I do wonder why i ever even bother, your icing of words that you try to cover up reality with is so massive and rooted way too deep in your world view that any number of arguments or statistics won't be enough to make you see through it. It's kind of like the argument i had with my muslim friend about evolution, even though your arguments are more academic a similiar ideological block is clouding both of your minds from seeing obvious truths no matter what evidence is brought up in defense of them. Well enjoy being in the margin victim cult for the rest of your life.

You do realize that even if elections can be influenced by interests groups and others's funding that doesn't make the elections themselves meaningless, the decision are indeed made by the result of that vote and even though politicians do not have the best track record when it comes to corruption they still have a choice to make and that choice is not made invalid thourgh free markets. Also do note that everything that is not communist is not the same as the US. There are loads of european countries who actually do not have a huge deathtoll on their free market systems. Also there is nothing inherently propagandist as you say in making media that people are more likely to consume when the array of people is so vast and different from eachother not to mention media produced by nonprofits or goverment agencies and when it comes to climate change, a free market system does indeed have the potential to ignore it but if people start wanting more ecofriendly stuff then the demand and therefore production of things will shift into a more ecofriendly direction. Also nice of you to not at all challenge me when i spoke of such things as "your prophet" and "your holy book" it is good to notice when you are just consumed by a belief system. And yeah im not really going to read that whole thing.