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Raivan · 0 points · 10 years ago

> calling Karl the Great "Charlemagne", allthough he was a Frank, who spoke germanic and not gaulic like the gaul surrender monkeys like to claim
>using germanball in times of which germany was allmost 1000 years before uniting to a country

nice try, Gaul

Athaliel · OP · 6 points · 10 years ago

Shut up brother, France and Germany should have never part away. We are one ***ing people: the Franks. We fought the Saxons and the Gauls, yes.
Now Germany is the remains of Franks/Saxons while France is the remains of Franks/Celts. Anyway, Charlemagne or Karl or whatever fought both, but we are supposed to be one.
Hell imagine if his heirs hadn't part away... We would be the ***ing first power in the world.
*** the europe, i want his empire back.

Also what he spoke is irrelevent. French and German languages did not exist at the time. His capital city was at the border of modern France/Germany and I believe both can claim of his Empire as part of their history.

Germanball is for non morons to get it, get it? the French flag is pretty recent too mate.

ponasvelnes · 10-Year Club · 1 points · 10 years ago

actually germany is now more then half prussian which is a mixture of european knights who raped old baltic prussians and well old baltic prussiasn which made prussians who then made prussian kingdom after commonwealth of poland and lithuania fell
this made prussian energize in sex drive and they basiclly took over half german people so they are germans now

Raivan · 1 points · 10 years ago

I don't deny the relationship of blood and the fact that we have the same kind of enemy rightnow but I am still not your brother.

Athaliel · OP · 2 points · 10 years ago

Well you don't really have the choice brother.
I'm mostly from Alsace-Lorraine and if we track it down to Charlemagne's times... Grandmother's family is full blond haired, green eyed Franks whithout the shadow of a doubt.
I think we share a lot of ancestors. Oh the beauty of the internet, reuniting families that parted away. =)

Seriously though imagine the colonial empire if we had stayed together.
imagine both the world wars won against other ***s. imagine the time saved compared to the loss in times and men of value.
Imagination aside!
why the hate?

I mean I have a lot of ancestors that died fighting the German during both the World Wars... Still I think that is a pity really, and not hating Germany :/
Is it because you think you have the leadering position in the EU?
Do you realize how France helped you after WWII? The relationship between Adenauer and De Gaulle was initiated by De Gaulle. And from that relationship emerged Europe as we know it today :/
Let's move forward for once, brother.

fermito · 3-Year Club · 1 points · 10 years ago

Gaul stop existing about 300 years before Carolus Magnus, as he should be called, since he was officialy called like that - and spoke Latin. Then his mother language was Frankish, as he was king of Franks, like his father and forefathers, who was a germanic language mixed with vulgar Latin.

nice try, german butthurt

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Raivan · -1 points · 10 years ago

"Franken" is still a german province and "frÃ¤nkisch" is a dialect form which is alive even nowadays

"Carolus Magnus, as he should be called, since he was officialy called like that - and spoke Latin"

he was called "Carolus Magnus" by the church, which you imply to be official source of everything by saying that.
The people of his land called him "Kaiser Karl" as only the nobility could effort latin lessons, therefore your 2nd statement, that it has latin mixed in is bullshit.

it was just germanic, the same language the saxons, swabians and other germanic tribes spoke which are now under the unification of "Germany"

and I didn't try, I stated rightfully and pwned your delusions.

fermito · 3-Year Club · 0 points · 10 years ago

Frankish isn't frÃ¤nkisch. We're talking about a medieval language, even if some historian can study it, it has nothing to do with actual dialect. Frankish gave a lot of french dialects (Chti, Picard, Wallon, and other) still spoken today who look more like french with germanic influences (expressions and prononciation) than german. And it was definitly a germanic language mixe with vulgar latin.
Germany was created in the 19 century. So forget about Franken being a german province, you're mixing everybody. Frank is just a germanic people, that is to say, nowadays, coming from Belgium, Netherland, Denmark, Skandinavia and a bit north of Germany.

The Church was the main source of everything back then.

And he was only surrounded by the nobility and clerical people, speaking latin so.

Wait. You're absolutly serious ? I'm sorry to say that you tried and failed.

Raivan · 0 points · 10 years ago

" And it was definitly a germanic language mixe with vulgar latin"

nope

"Germany was created in the 19 century"

that what I said aswell, scroll up.

I said it were germanic people, who are now (!) in Germany to the most part

"The Church was the main source of everything back then."
yes, it was.

still you can't take everything the church says for granted, every stupid kid learns that in school, that there is never a 100% accurate historical writing, especially of times that go back 1000 years

try again

fermito · 3-Year Club · 1 points · 10 years ago

"nope"
Yes

"that what I said aswell, scroll up."
so explain what you meant by ""Franken" is still a german province"

You can take most of the administrativ documents made by the church for granted, especially for such an important person like him, and overall in this period. Church delivered the most useful, precise and reliable official register. Even after 1200 years. Anyway, good luck looking for a better source from that time !

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Athaliel · OP · 0 points · 10 years ago

I was about to say about Carolus Magnus actually then saw it was already done. Why are you so butthurt? Why don't you check different historical sources? I mean you can't deny all church sources since for a long... long... long time they're basically the only relevent historical sources.
Also "the people of his land". *** have you ever seen a map of his empire? Was there only one ***ing language in all of it? Even after 1200 years there are still 6 different languages in this land, more if you count dialects. Hell how can you be so full of shit?
"Kaiser Karl"? Really? Of the mighty Prussian Empire too?
Cut the crap Brian, and move on.